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[eerie music]
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[wailing]
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[wailing]
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[tense music]
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[man 1 speaking]
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[man 2 speaking]
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[man 3 speaking]
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[man 4] This thing
inside of me, it's like...
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Take a look at this.
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The feeling...
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The hunger...
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[tense music]
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[Dr. Raghavan]
She switched from being extremely upset
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to very business-like.
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She seems to have sort of
a clear developed theory
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as to why
this might happen.
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You know, that's a little
puzzling.
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[soft music]
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She's making sure that the
police understand
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that he was a shady guy
to direct their attention
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away from her
and start to consider
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the world that he inhabited.
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[Dr. Raghavan]
I think that's what raises, for me, an eyebrow.
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Suggesting that
her husband is someone
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that many people might
want to kill.
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It's a peculiar narrative
to have for anybody.
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[eerie music]
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You wanna wait here?
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[door squeaking]
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[crying]
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For the psychopath,
the goal of turning on and off
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is to manipulate
and impress the viewer.
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She's very skilled, you know,
and she missed her calling.
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She could have been an actor
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because she can
cry on command
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and she seems to
have some mastery
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of her emotions and not
everybody does.
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[Dr. Raghavan]
It's interesting that she would choose
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to get her hair done,
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feeling like he's so worthless
that I can spend my time
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doing something
that benefits me.
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She doesn't like him.
I wonder why.
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[Dr. Raghavan]
Well, it's a couple of psychopathic traits
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sort of running through this
and this complete detachment
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from the situation
and over-rating
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her own confidence
in a grandiose way.
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[Dr. Berrill] Despite the fact
that she comes across
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as a fun loving,
attractive young woman,
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there are some real,
real deficiencies,
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but she's sure that
no one would ever
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point a finger at her
because, look, I'm adorable.
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[Dr. Raghavan]
The whole exchange is so bizarre,
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it's so inappropriate.
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But that's part of her
performance, to be cute.
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Female psychopaths
are so rare
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that we can't even put
a percentage on it.
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But female psychopathy
manifests quite differently.
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There's gendering
and almost everything.
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[Dr. Berrill]
When she describes herself as a cute little girl,
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she's really letting you know
how she thinks
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the rest of the world
looks at her,
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but don't let that fool you.
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So right there,
you sort of get
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the bifurcation between
how she presents herself
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to the world
and who she really is.
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[dramatic music]
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They brought into the room
the undercover cop
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who was masquerading
as a hitman
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to see if she was going to
admit that she knew him.
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[Dr. Berrill]
She knows damn well she met with this guy,
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she is unflappable
and she's a good actress.
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She does have
really quite admirable
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control of her emotions.
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[crying]
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[inaudible chatter]
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[Dr. Berrill]
What's going on here is that the jig is up,
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she's just in
the face of reality,
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just saying, like,
I didn't do anything.
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She set this in motion.
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So this lets you know how
infantile she really is.
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When you speak to a lot of
anti-socials or psychopaths,
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there is an infantile quality.
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You know, to them.
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She's not that sharp.
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She's, she's put her
trust in someone.
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And again, I think it's
that self-deluded
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and grandiose notion that
she's a cute little girl.
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[Dr. Raghavan]
The role of smallness, cuteness, fragility.
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In this particular instance,
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it's to manipulate the
detectives
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into feeling sorry for her
and then letting her go.
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We're witnessing
a game show from hell.
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Basically this whole thing
was a setup
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and of course
the police knew that.
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She didn't.
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[Dr. Berrill]
She's asking him to soothe her.
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Not like,
I need to explain myself
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or I need to apologize
for this whole thing.
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But it was like, come here,
you know, come rescue me.
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But I guess Mike
wasn't having any of it.
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[Dr. Raghavan]
I think it's not a coincidence,
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it's really notable
that she met her husband
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while escorting.
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One of the requirements
of a woman who escorts
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is that you have to shut down
your own feelings
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in order to become whatever
the fantasy is of the client.
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And so detachment and
performance go hand in hand.
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[Dr. Raghavan]
The minute he says, return my house,
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her voice just drops into
this sort of cold like,
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uh-uh, it's mine,
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She switched out of,
you know, sort of
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this performance into
an actual feeling,
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which is I am entitled
to this house.
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The interesting thing about
psychopaths
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is there's no real person
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because they don't really have
an integrated identity.
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They just take on the persona
that is necessary to survive.
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And that's why
they can be charming,
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they can be manipulative,
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they can be all
these different things.
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The focus on the money doesn't
make her psychopathic.
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It's the ruthless
determination
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and coldness in obtaining it.
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[Dr. Raghavan] People with
psychopathic traits, they lie.
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Perhaps it's not a coincidence
that she says
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it was a performance
and that she wants to be
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a reality TV star.
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In fact, so much of women
who escort their lives
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are just performers.
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And even though I think
the story
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that she's come up with
is extremely unlikely.
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You know,
there's elements of that
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that seem to fit
sort of her larger reality.
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